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Post by yianni on May 22, 2006 0:45:44 GMT -5
Hey guys,
Im intersted to hear what rigs you guys use out there. I currently use a solitaire but I am finding my sound on stage to be quite thin, i have experimented with different types of monitors but have not found the right one. My sound from the PA is great on the other hand - which i dont get to hear being on stage.
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Post by dynamismusic on May 22, 2006 15:19:17 GMT -5
Here is my rig setup:
Rane AP13 Acoustic Pre-Amp
Yamaha Magic Stomp reverb
Presonus Comp 16 tube compressor
AKG wireless guitar bug
JBL SR-X series Wedge Monitor Speaker ;D
Danny
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Post by Panagiotis on May 22, 2006 17:34:08 GMT -5
Here is my rig setup: Rane AP13 Acoustic Pre-Amp Yamaha Magic Stomp reverb Presonus Comp 16 tube compressor AKG wireless guitar bug JBL SR-X series Wedge Monitor Speaker ;D Danny To clarify...you are using the acoustic Magicstomp..because they also make an electric guitar one. It's esentially a preamp/digital fx processor. A very nice unit (and that's not just because I'm affiliated with Yamaha!  ) Also, Danny comes out through the main PA system which includes 2 EV 1502 cabinets and a QSC amp. Pete |
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Post by adonis on May 22, 2006 19:55:15 GMT -5
OK, I'm a bit of a techno-amateur so bear with me here ...
How does the JBL monitor work in this set-up?
Is it a powered unit that gets a feed directly from your pre-amp/effects unit or do you take a line-out from the desk and get the whole mix thru it?
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Post by Panagiotis on May 22, 2006 20:13:00 GMT -5
OK, I'm a bit of a techno-amateur so bear with me here ... How does the JBL monitor work in this set-up? Is it a powered unit that gets a feed directly from your pre-amp/effects unit or do you take a line-out from the desk and get the whole mix thru it? I think it is best if the bouzouki player has his own rig and a dedicated speaker, like Danny has. He then send me a line out to the main system. That way, he has a bouzouki speaker on stage for his own monitoring and most of the sound comes out the front. We also use a monitor for vocals, keys, and perhaps a bit more bouzouki if necessary. Pete |
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Post by hijazz on May 22, 2006 20:43:58 GMT -5
i use a presonus acousti q preamp ,presonus comp16 compressor, behringer feedbackdestroyer, tc electronics m-one reverbunit, crest ca12 poweramp, and the new jbl srx 712m speaker.
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Post by Panagiotis on May 22, 2006 20:45:46 GMT -5
i use a presonus acousti q preamp ,presonus comp16 compressor, behringer feedbackdestroyer, tc electronics m-one reverbunit, crest ca12 poweramp, and the new jbl srx 712m speaker. That sounds like a nice clean rig....probably a nice small, light rack as well. How do you like the preamp? Danny just started using that same compressor, it works well. P |
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Post by hijazz on May 22, 2006 20:50:21 GMT -5
the rack is heavy man, cause of the poweramp, its 67 lbs.
the preamp i like, it has parametric eq and is also a blender, you can give it two signals at once, pickup and transducer etc, and get a monster sound, you blend the 2 signals together.
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Post by Panagiotis on May 22, 2006 20:53:37 GMT -5
Nice! I finally replaced my heavy amp with a nice QSC at a mere 20 lbs or so. If you want to spend the money...there is also the Walter Woods at 6 lbs!
P
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Post by hijazz on May 22, 2006 20:54:46 GMT -5
how many watts is it??
mine is mono bridged 2400watt
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Post by Panagiotis on May 22, 2006 21:12:16 GMT -5
SPECIFICATIONS PLX1202 PLX1602 PLX2402 PLX3002 PLX3402
STEREO MODE, Both Channels Driven
8 ohms (20 Hz-20 kHz 0.03% THD) 200 W 300 W 425 W 550 W 700 W
4 ohms (20 Hz-20 kHz 0.05% THD) 325 W 500 W 700 W 900 W 1100 W
2 ohms (1 kHz 1% THD) 600 W 800 W 1200 W 1500 W 1700 W
BRIDGE MONO MODE
16 ohms (20 Hz-20 kHz 0.1% THD) 400 W 600 W 850 W 1100 W 1400 W
8 ohms (20 Hz-20 kHz 0.1% THD) 700 W 1100 W 1500 W 2000 W 2200 W
4 ohms (1 kHz 1% THD) 1200 W 1600 W 2400 W 3000 W 3400 W
Signal to Noise (20 Hz-20 kHz) < -106 dB < -107 dB < -108 dB < -107 dB < -107 dB
Input Sensitivity @ 8 ohms 1.0 Vrms 1.2 Vrms 1.5 Vrms 1.7 Vrms 1.9 Vrms
Input Sensitivity @ 4 ohms 0.9 Vrms 1.1 Vrms 1.3 Vrms 1.5 Vrms 1.7 Vrms
Voltage Gain 40x (32 dB) 40x (32 dB) 40x (32 dB) 40x (32 dB) 40x (32 dB)
Output Circuitry AB AB 2-Step Class H 2-Step Class H 2-Step Class H
Power Requirements
(1/8 Power Pink Noise @ 4 Ohm) 6A 10A 8A 10A 12A
ALL MODELS
Distortion (SMPTE-IM) Less than 0.01%
Distortion (Typical)
20 Hz-20 kHz: 10 dB below rated power
1.0 kHz and below: full rated power
Less than 0.01% THD
Less than 0.01% THD
Frequency Response 20 Hz-20 kHz, +/- 0.2 dB / 8 Hz-50 kHz, +0, -3 dB
Damping Factor Greater than 500
Input Impedance 6k ohms unbalanced, 12 k ohms balanced
Input Clipping 10 Vrms (+22 dB)
Cooling Variable-speed fan, rear-to-front air flow
Connectors, each channel Input: 3-pin XLR & 1/4" TRS balanced
Output: Neutrik® Speakon® and touch-proof binding posts
Amplifier Protection Full short circuit, open circuit, thermal, ultrasonic, and RF protection
Stable into reactive or mismatched loads
Load Protection On/off muting, DC-fault power supply shutdown
Dimensions 19" (48.3 cm) rack mounting, 3.5" (8.9 cm) tall (2 rack spaces)
13.25" (33.7 cm) deep (from front mounting rails)
Gain 40x (32 dB)
Weight 21 lbs (9.5 kg) net, 27 lbs (12.3 kg) shipping
I have the 3402.
P
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Post by Panagiotis on May 22, 2006 22:22:46 GMT -5
Yes, but the QSC is very clean and it sounds fine for anything that we are doing. Besides, you have to look at the sound:back pain ratio! P |
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Post by adonis on May 22, 2006 23:48:39 GMT -5
So Danny's JBL wedge is powered? And it takes a feed from his pre-amp/effects rack, basically acting in the same way as a guitar/bouzouki amp?
Sounds like you guys have got some decent hardware happening.
I currently run a very basic set-up: BOSS multi-effect unit into a Fender Twin (mainly for on-stage/monitor) and then line-out from the amp into the PA for front of house.
I'm thinking of getting a pre-amp unit, any suggestions? I am obviously not a pro and only play big gigs about 6-7 times a year so I don't want to spend big $$$.
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Post by dynamismusic on May 23, 2006 2:27:54 GMT -5
So Danny's JBL wedge is powered? And it takes a feed from his pre-amp/effects rack, basically acting in the same way as a guitar/bouzouki amp? Sounds like you guys have got some decent hardware happening. I currently run a very basic set-up: BOSS multi-effect unit into a Fender Twin (mainly for on-stage/monitor) and then line-out from the amp into the PA for front of house. I'm thinking of getting a pre-amp unit, any suggestions? I am obviously not a pro and only play big gigs about 6-7 times a year so I don't want to spend big $$$. Andonis, the Rane is not a pricey item. I just looked on ebay to see if one was available--no luck. Keep looking. I'm happy with the presonus comp I use- it's under $100!! Hijazz is using a presonus pre amp--please share some info on the sound quality and your over all impression with us. I believe that too, is under $100. Danny |
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Post by yianni on May 23, 2006 2:34:48 GMT -5
i have also been told that the bbe acoustic pre-amp is a very good unit, has anyone else tried this? i prefer solitaire, but in order to obtain a good sound you need to drive the amp which is very annoying to the other band members on stage, it drains everyones sound
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) Also, Danny comes out through the main PA system which includes 2 EV 1502 cabinets and a QSC amp.