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Post by Panagiotis on Jan 5, 2006 22:37:02 GMT -5
Hey bouzoukists, how do you approach improvisation/taxim? Perhaps the keyboardists, clarino players and bouzouki players can collaborate a bit here!
Pete
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Post by Panagiotis on Jan 6, 2006 17:18:09 GMT -5
Personally,
I think that given one has a solid foundation in thier scales/theory, they should learn the taxims of the great players....on thier own instrument or other instruments sometimes. In othe words, start by emulation...then evolve into innovation. Also, try to approach soloing with a developmental mindset...don't just meander around on the scales, really try to develop your solos using melodic, harmonic, and rhythmic ideas. Your solo should really be a "composition within a composition".....a journey that starts somewhere and takes the listener somewhere else. You should feel like the solo is transporting you rather than spinning in a circle.
Pete
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Post by nikokphth on Jan 7, 2006 11:57:53 GMT -5
Gia sou Pete,
I agree with you that a solid Knowledge of Scales and Theory or vital in playing a taximi. Emulating the taximi from the greats may be a great way to learn I much prefer my own improvisations. These then take into account the mood of the song and typically what i am currently feeling. Typically i rarely can play the same taximi twice since i truly am improvising and not so much thinking OK what comes next.
Now as for me I have been playing for 20 years but never learned to read music or the scales. I Knew that i was playing patterns but never knew the name of much about the patterns. Just now i have been trying to learn all i can about the scales and actually music as a whole. I have since noticed that my playing has been taken to a whole new level where as before that was it, i had "plateaued". So you will hear from me alot of basic questions that a starting student would be asking so that i can actually learn music not just the Bouzouki.
Any way lets get some activity on this board.
How about a scale a week discussion along with samples of runs, songs, taximia, and other dialog for it.
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Post by Panagiotis on Jan 7, 2006 13:31:15 GMT -5
It's wonderful to hear when a player keeps pressing forward on thier instrument. We should all keep learning.....there really is no end. I find that the more I learn, the more I am aware of how little I really know in the larger picture. For me, the journey is half the fun! Anyway, I think that a weekly discourse on the scales is a great idea. I hope more people join our little community here.
Pete
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Post by dynamismusic on Jan 9, 2006 13:34:08 GMT -5
Improv is a special topic. For me, it's when the bouzouki and I become soul mates. No limits to what can be done or played. However, there are boundaries. These boundaries are confined to the laws of musical scales--so it is not a free-for-all. Although I never play two taximia exactly the same, I do rely on the scale and certain acoustical patterns and progressions. I use them as a sort of radar, I fly where I want, while avoiding the "no fly" zones. I also hear this same type of improv ideology from great keyboardists and Guitarists; Chick Corea and Pete Deneff ( yes, both of these players can be mentioned in the same breath and sentence together because of their unique similarities) for keyboards and Al Dimeola and Paco de Lucia for Guitarists are, in my opinion, perfect examples.
My point is, be free to express yourself while being guided by musical ideas of expression based on sound musical principals.
Danny
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Post by marios on Jan 9, 2006 22:45:58 GMT -5
I wonder, whether listening to guitar solos, or Jazz solos could improve our Bouzouki taximia??
If so, any pieces reccomended for listening?
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Post by Panagiotis on Jan 14, 2006 19:49:17 GMT -5
Yes, we can learn and pick up things from all styles of music. I would suggest listening to some of the more obvious things like Al Dimeola-Casino, Chick Corea- My Spanish Heart, anything by Django Reinhart, Tito Puente, Antonio Carlos Jobim, you can even throw a little Charlie Parker in there for balance! If nothing else, there is a whole world of music out there beyond Greek that can be enjoyed.
Enjoy,
Pete
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Post by jtsioles on May 23, 2006 21:31:31 GMT -5
Danny, how about Steve Vai? By knowing music theory well, is it easy to understand how his music is played on the guitar?
Jim
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Post by dynamismusic on May 24, 2006 2:39:38 GMT -5
Danny, how about Steve Vai? By knowing music theory well, is it easy to understand how his music is played on the guitar? Jim Jim, Without a doubt, knowing theory will help you understand. Think of it like this, with a solid background and knowledge of music theory, the playing of Steve Vai (or any musician for that matter), is a language. When you here a player play, you'll understand what they are saying. Music is a language, you MUST learn how to speak (play) it. Danny |
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Post by Panagiotis on May 24, 2006 11:18:48 GMT -5
Absolutely. Music theory is the syntax of music. Just like grammer is the syntax of language. However, grammer in itself does not make poetry....but the poet using his grammatical skills can create beautiful art.
P
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